topic Re: IPv6 in Internet

Gigahub and IPv6

SteveD — Mon, 21 Nov 2022 01:11:30 GMT

In early October I switched from a third party internet provider that was using Bell’s copper lines to Fibe 3.0. When I made that switch I had issues with a lot of devices on my network, I used my own router using PPPoE pass through, so other than a change in external IP, things remained the same internally. I realized that I wasn’t getting an IPv6 address as part of the connection.

i bypassed my equipment and connected directly to the Gigahub and couldn’t find any hint of configuration for IPv6 and my laptop wasn’t getting an IPv6 address.

I called support ad the tech that I spoke to indicated that the next version of the firmware for the Gigahub would support IPv6 and I wanted to get an update. Do we have an ETA for IPv6 on the Gigahub?

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

BellNick — Tue, 22 Nov 2022 19:42:09 GMT

Hi there @SteveD,
Thanks for your post and welcome to the Bell Community.

Currently at this time we do not support IPv6 through residential service.

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

SteveD — Tue, 22 Nov 2022 19:47:41 GMT

Sorry, just had to check my calendar, the initial RFCs for IPv6 came out in the 1990s, it is currently 2022.

Was the tech that I was speaking to mis-informed or did he straight up lie to me to get me off the phone?

Is there a timeline for when Bell will support IPv6 on their residential services?

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

hackman — Tue, 07 Mar 2023 07:00:38 GMT

You can create a tunnel from a device behind the gigahub to He.net via their service tunnelbroker.net

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

snowblower — Fri, 05 May 2023 16:49:57 GMT

Have you tried a Huuricane Electric ipv6 tunnel? I'm trying, and on two systems both transmit but get no reply. I'm not sure what the problem is yet, but it's startign to look like Bell is blocking protocol 41 IP messages.

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

SteveD — Sat, 06 May 2023 15:38:05 GMT

I tried and had some success, but in retrospect it was slow and laggy. However I tried to run the HE IPv6 tunnel on a box that has a VPN so it is total possible that running over the VPN allowed it to work, but at the same time caused the delay. I’ll have to retest on a different box.

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

snowblower — Sat, 06 May 2023 16:53:26 GMT

I finally got it working. The key was to use a separate router and connect to the GigaHub using a ppoe connection. That provided me with a separate IP address that was pingable. I could never get a ping through the GigaHub before, and it might have been blocking other stuff (despite all my experiementing with DMS and Advanced DMZ.

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

snowblower — Wed, 24 May 2023 19:32:40 GMT

I wrote up a how-to for setting up a ipv6 tunnel router that will work on Bell's fiber network with a GigaHub:

https://jptrainor.github.io/ipv6/2023/05/16/ipv6-tunnel-on-bell-fibre.html

... it's the best solution I could come up with as a hold-over until Bell joins the rest of us in the 21st century and supports IPv6.

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

SteveD — Sun, 04 Jun 2023 23:04:04 GMT

I tried this, got the basics working, but too much random stuff is happening to make it worth it.

streaming services are misbehaving, Google searches are constantly asking me to prove that I’m not a bot, etc

I had a rep from Rogers come to my door the other day, seriously considering switching once my introductory price with Bell is gone.

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

snowblower — Tue, 06 Jun 2023 13:05:29 GMT

Yes, I experienced google asking me if I'm a bot when I use the HE tunnel. I only use it occasionally to test some software where IPV6 is a must have, so it's not a problem. I have a dedicated sub-network that I connect to when I need IPV6. The rest of the time I use Bell's vanilla IPV4. If I needed IPV6 day to day then Bell would not be an option as an ISP. Hopefully Bell join the 21st century soon. I imagine that every peice of equipment that runs their network already supports it and all they need to do is configure it and turn it on.

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

SteveD — Tue, 06 Jun 2023 13:49:27 GMT

I quickly looked into VPNs with IPv6 support and found one that seems to offer 10GB of traffic a month for free, so I might try to add this to my network using a separate VLAN/SSID.

Also you comment about Bell joining the 21st century is a bit strange, the first RFCs for IPv6 came out in the 20th century, so I would consider this them joining the 20th century.

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

snowblower — Tue, 06 Jun 2023 16:27:31 GMT

I give them a break until 2017 when the draft standard was finally ratified. After that, they are being complacent and living in the past. IMO

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

Zadigre — Tue, 11 Jul 2023 00:14:51 GMT

I seriously do not understand why IPv6 is not already available.

I currently have Five 3.0... and considering switching to a "slower" cable provider to get IPv6. I need IPv6 to access and test some part of our network when I work from home. Using a tunnel may work... but it's definitely not optimal.

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

iteoc — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 15:26:19 GMT

I have a number of Bell Fibe TV boxes and was very surprised to learn that each of these TV Android boxes had for its ID what looks like a ipv6 address … can anyone from Bell confirm this?

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

Zadigre — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 16:18:59 GMT

can you give an example of what you are seeing?
TVs are on their own vlan/network... so I'm not really surprised to see they may be using IPv6 internally.

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

iteoc — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 17:21:07 GMT

If you are a Fibe TV Box subscriber go to Settings scroll down to System Info and that's where you will see the ID that I believe looks very much like a ipv6 address.

I would post a Screen shot except that would violate the TOS on this fourm due to the sensitive info that is presented....

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

Zadigre — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 18:00:59 GMT

IPv6 should be something like 2001:1234:4567:7890:abcd:1234:4567:7890. Is this what you are seeing?

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

iteoc — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 21:00:29 GMT

Yes it Looks similar …

Re: Gigahub and IPv6

Zadigre — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:00:12 GMT

that's one more proof bell is ready for IPv6. I don't know what they are waiting for exactly

Ipv-6

Paps — Sun, 01 Oct 2023 19:34:19 GMT

Just wondering if ipv-6 is still not a possibility in the setting of the modem ?