How to set up HH3000 to have single subnet

Bernard
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My network is set up as shown below.

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For a number of practical reasons, I need to connect a Synology NAS and a PC to the HH3000 directly. My home router is, however, an Asus router which provides wifi and ethernet to the rest of the house.

I have a wifi camera connected to the Asus router. I'm trying to have it connect with the NAS for storage. The NAS is on the HH3000's subnet with IP 192.168.2.x while the webcam is on the Asus router's subnet with 192.168.50.x. Because of this, it doesn't work.

The easy solution would be to set up the HH3000 as a bridge, but that's apparently not possible. Using DMZ appears to be a way forward (not fully familiar with that) but it would exclude the devices plugged in the HH3000 via ethernet. Would clever port forwarding help me? Something else?

Note that all devices can see each other, apart from the NAS and camera. The network as it is does what I need it to do, I just want the two devices to communicate.

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ZaneP
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 You may need to dive in as you may not got all of your questions and concerns answered in advance. Only you know the urgency of getting things sorted out. You should definitely do a search on PPPoE on this forum.

As you know, there's no true bridge mode available. Your options are PPPoE and ADMZ.

I suggest PPPoE. (You may want to do this when there are no other users on the LAN. Less disruptive.YMMV)

No changes are needed on the modem at this stage.

Connect the WAN port of the Asus to an ethernet port on the HH3K. 

You'll need to enable a PPPoE connection via the appropriate config screen on the Asus.You must have your Bell username (begins with B1) and password at the ready.

You'll need to disable the DHCP and Wifi services on the HH3K. Your router will handle both of these functions.

For further information beyond this Community forum, you should look at the Bell forum on DSLR. It's very active and there are a number of threads on PPPoE (and ADMZ). https://www.dslreports.com/forum/sympat

As well, take a look at the Bell reddit.  A search on PPPoE for specific posts by redditors may be useful. https://www.reddit.com/r/bell/

Hope this helps. Good luck and keep us posted.

 

 

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BellPatricia
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Hey there @Bernard, thanks for your post and welcome to the Bell Community.

Have you tried using PPPoE on your Asus router?

Keep the Community posted.
- Patricia

Hi,

I am not familiar enough with PPPoE. I've read a bit about it, but can you give me more details? It appears easy to activate, but are there particular settings I should use? What would it change, what would be the impacts?

 

Thanks.

ZaneP
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Hey @Bernard 

Quick thoughts.

One option would be to take your Asus router out of the equation: connect an unmanaged 8-port switch to the HH3K. All the ethernet devices can be connected to it. Or get a 4-port switch and connect any additional ethernet devices to the HH3K.

The modem will deal with DHCP and wifi for all the devices on your LAN. You would need to reboot the webcam so it gets a new IP address.

Another option could be putting your Asus in Access Point mode. It would be on the same subnet as the modem.

ZaneP

 

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Thanks ZaneP.

Removing the Asus router of the equation is not an option, for multiple reasons.

I contacted Asus and their Level 1 support suggested that putting the router in Access Point would still create two subnets. That surprised me as it seemed to be an easy solution, it might be wrong. I must mention that the "Asus router" is actually a Mesh system consisting of several units, but the idea of a Mesh network is that it appears as one router. It does support both PPPoE and Access point modes, I'm just not sure enough of the impacts and I don't want to cripple my whole network by doing something I shouldn't.

So from this thread, I could either put my Asus router in PPPoE, with yet undefined impacts except that it would still be a router with its own securities and firewalls (I think), or use Access Point, with unclear (to me) impacts on wifi performances.

ZaneP
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Given that you likely don't want to mess with your Asus mesh, you could configure the router to connect to the HH3K with PPPoE. But first...where are you located? If you just got an HH3K are you in eastern Canada? In that case you won't use PPPoE but rather DHCP to connect your Asus.

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Bernard
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I don't want to remove my Asus system, but I have no problem changing its configurations if it does what I need it to do.

I am in Quebec, not that it changes anything, and have had the HH3000 for several years now.

the link between the HH3000 and the Asus system is DHCP for the moment.

My questions above stand, I hope to get answers to them. all of that because the HH3000 cannot be set as a bridge, sadly.

ZaneP
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 You may need to dive in as you may not got all of your questions and concerns answered in advance. Only you know the urgency of getting things sorted out. You should definitely do a search on PPPoE on this forum.

As you know, there's no true bridge mode available. Your options are PPPoE and ADMZ.

I suggest PPPoE. (You may want to do this when there are no other users on the LAN. Less disruptive.YMMV)

No changes are needed on the modem at this stage.

Connect the WAN port of the Asus to an ethernet port on the HH3K. 

You'll need to enable a PPPoE connection via the appropriate config screen on the Asus.You must have your Bell username (begins with B1) and password at the ready.

You'll need to disable the DHCP and Wifi services on the HH3K. Your router will handle both of these functions.

For further information beyond this Community forum, you should look at the Bell forum on DSLR. It's very active and there are a number of threads on PPPoE (and ADMZ). https://www.dslreports.com/forum/sympat

As well, take a look at the Bell reddit.  A search on PPPoE for specific posts by redditors may be useful. https://www.reddit.com/r/bell/

Hope this helps. Good luck and keep us posted.

 

 

I am a Community All-Star and customer. I'm here to help by sharing my knowledge and experience. My views on Bell and the Community Forum are my own and not the views of Bell or any of its affiliates.